Without Faith

Faith in active opposition to common sense is mistaken enthusiasm and narrow-mindedness, and common sense in opposition to faith demonstrates a mistaken reliance on reason as the basis for truth. The life of faith brings the two of these into the proper relationship. Common sense and faith are as different from each other as the natural life is from the spiritual, and as impulsiveness is from inspiration. Nothing that Jesus Christ ever said is common sense, but is revelation sense, and is complete, whereas common sense falls short. Yet faith must be tested and tried before it becomes real in your life. “We know that all things work together for good…” (Romans 8:28) so that no matter what happens, the transforming power of God’s providence transforms perfect faith into reality. Faith always works in a personal way, because the purpose of God is to see that perfect faith is made real in His children.

For every detail of common sense in life, there is a truth God has revealed by which we can prove in our practical experience what we believe God to be. Faith is a tremendously active principle that always puts Jesus Christ first. The life of faith says, “Lord, You have said it, it appears to be irrational, but I’m going to step out boldly, trusting in Your Word” (for example, see Matthew 6:33). Turning intellectual faith into our personal possession is always a fight, not just sometimes. God brings us into particular circumstances to educate our faith, because the nature of faith is to make the object of our faith very real to us. Until we know Jesus, God is merely a concept, and we can’t have faith in Him. But once we hear Jesus say, “He who has seen Me has seen the Father” (John 14:9) we immediately have something that is real, and our faith is limitless. Faith is the entire person in the right relationship with God through the power of the Spirit of Jesus Christ.

WISDOM FROM OSWALD CHAMBERS

Awe is the condition of a man’s spirit realizing Who God is and what He has done for him personally. Our Lord emphasizes the attitude of a child; no attitude can express such solemn awe and familiarity as that of a child.  Not Knowing Whither, 882 L

52 thoughts on “Without Faith

  1. So you would tell the Hindu woman that your holy book is more reliable than hers? What would you say if she asked you how you are certain of this?

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  2. So we have a situation where you, a Christian, believe 100% that your faith is the only true faith and a Hindu woman who believes 100% that her faith is the only true faith, and, you both are base this belief 100% on faith. How can I or any other third party know which of you is correct?

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    • There is only one Creator, one true God.

      Every other religion maybe sincerely believed, however one day every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Even the devil will one day will bow and will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

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  3. But how can I or any other third party know which of you has the correct belief system? If you both are basing the veracity of your belief system 100% on faith, how do we know who’s faith is correct?

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    • Everyone has to make their own choice, no one can decide for anyone else. It can not be handed down from a family member.

      If you died tonight are you certain you would end up in Heaven….if you are not sure call out to Jesus right now and ask Him to reveal Himself to you, ask Him for forgiveness, believe in your Heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord.

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      • Why should I commit to your religion when the only reason for believing you have given me is your sincere, intense faith? Many Muslims, Hindus, Mormons, persons of other religions, sects, and cults have the same intensity and sincerity of faith as you. Many of these religions are exclusivist. You can’t be a good Hindu and a good Christian at the same time. You must choose. How can I determine which exclusivist religion is the correct one?

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        • Everyone decides whether to follow Jesus or not. It is a personal choice to have a personal relationship with our creator or not.

          Every leader of every religion, sect, and cult dies and they stay dead, their bones can be found in their graves.

          Jesus gave up His life to pay for you sins and mine, then on the third day Jesus rose again and is alive, lives inside believers, and sits at the right hand of the Father.

          Jesus came to earth to pay for our sins.

          Jesus’ grave is empty.

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      • How can you be so sure? What if I pray to “God” and ask him to show me which religion is true, and something in my head says “Hinduism”? Why shouldn’t I believe this voice? You have not given me any idea how to distinguish between the voice of the correct God and that of false Gods other than to tell me that the voice must say something consistent with your Christian holy book or it can’t be the true God. That doesn’t sound logical.

        Is it possible that you are simply listening to yourself talking to yourself and not a holy spirit? How would you know?

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        • The devil plays with our heads. The devil attacks our mind.

          The ‘Christian holy book’ as you call it is the Written Word of God, our Creator God.

          You certainly may have a conversation with yourself.

          I will agree with your Prayer to ask the Lord Jesus to reveal Himself to you and that He would come into your life. Then you will recognize His voice.

          May I suggest you read the Gospel of John?

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          • But the Mormon missionary tells me that if I read HIS holy book, God will speak to me. The Muslim imam tells me that if I read HIS holy book, God will speak to me. And the Hindu tells me the very same thing about reading his holy book! So is reading someone’s holy book really a reliable method of coming to the truth?

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          • Any group make up a ‘holy book’.

            Christian study the written Word of God, written by our Creator God.

            The Bible remains the best selling book of all times.

            When you write the date November 2, 2018 you are stating that it been two thousand and eighteen years since the Birth of Christ.

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  4. Isn’t there a more reliable means of knowing whether you are correct or someone from another religion is correct other than an internal voice, or, the number of copies of sold of each faith’s holy book?

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  5. How would I know that I have a personal relationship with Jesus? Hearing an inner voice? Is listening to inner voices a reliable method of determining truth?

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  6. I’ve talked to people who say that they sincerely prayed to God asking him which religion is true and some of them have said God told them Islam, some Hinduism, some Mormonism. Is listening to an inner voice a reliable method of determining such an important truth claim?

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  7. What is it then?

    It seems that you believe in Jesus as God because someone (your parents) told you to. But the Hindu believes that his Gods are true because his parents told him that is what to do. How can we know who is right?

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  8. So it is not that I hear the Salvation message, examine it, investigate it, and then choose to believe it based on sufficient evidence. What you are saying is that I simply hear it and immediately accept it because of faith (hope that something invisible is true) or I reject it.

    Hoping for something to be true doesn’t sound like a reliable method of determining truth. Is it possible that you have talked yourself into this foolproof belief (one based 100% on faith) simply because that is what your parents told you to believe, or, simply because you so much want to believe this belief? That is what it sounds like.

    I could do the same thing:

    Me: Believe in my dog as God or you will perish.

    Skeptic: What is your proof that your dog is God?

    Me: 100% faith. If you want to know the real truth, pray to my dog and you will receive the faith to believe. If you don’t believe, it is because you chose not pray to my dog.

    Sounds rather silly, doesn’t it. I don’t see your method of belief as being any different.

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      • Fundamentalist Islam says that if you do not call on Allah, YOU are going to spend eternity in Hell. Why aren’t you worried about that possibility?

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        • I am glad you asked:

          There is only one Creator. The Creator is the God of Heaven. There is only one way to Heaven and that is by accepting Jesus as your Lord and Saviour.

          Allah can not save anyone

          The pagan origin of the word, “Allah”.

          Islam: Truth or Myth?

          Interestingly, not many Muslims want to accept that Allah was already being worshipped at the Ka’ba in Mecca by Arab pagans before Muhammad came. Some Muslims become angry when they are confronted with this fact. But history is not on their side. Pre-Islamic literature has proved this.” (Who Is This Allah?, G. J. O. Moshay, 1994, p 138)

          “But history establishes beyond the shadow of doubt that even the pagan Arabs, before Muhammad’s time, knew their chief god by the name of Allah and even, in a sense, proclaimed his unity…Among the pagan Arabs this term denoted the chief god of their pantheon, the Kaaba, with its three hundred and sixty idols.” (The Moslem Doctrine of God, Samuel M. Zwemer 1905, p 24-25)

          In fact, he did not at first intend to establish a new religion, but rather to reform the belief in Allah which already existed, and to show what this belief truly signified and rightfully demanded. (Mohammed: The man and his faith, Tor Andrae, 1936, Translated by Theophil Menzel, 1960, p13-30)

          The pre-Islamic origin of “Allah”

          There is absolutely no question that Allah was worshipped by the pagan Arabs as one of many polytheistic gods.

          Allah was worshipped in the Kabah at Mecca before Muhammad was born. Muhammad merely proclaimed a god the Meccans were already familiar with. The pagan Arabs never accused Muhammad of preaching a different Allah than the one they already worshipped.

          Many scholars say “Allah” is derived from a compound Arabic word, AL + ILAH = Allah. “Ilah” in Arabic is “God” and “Al” in Arabic is a definite article like our word “the”. So from an English equivalent “Allah” comes from “The + God”. Others, like Arthur Jeffery say, “The common theory is that it is formed from ilah, the common word for a god, and the article al-; thus al-ilah, the god,” becomes Allah, “God.” This theory, however, is untenable. In fact, the name is one of the words borrowed into the language in pre-Islamic times from Aramaic.” (Islam: Muhammad and His Religion, Arthur Jeffery, 1958, p 85)

          Although “Allah” has become known as the proper name for the Muslim god, Allah is not a name, but a descriptor that means literally, “the god”. All pagan cultures have these generic terms that refer to their “top god” as “the god”. In comparison to the perfect monotheism of Judaism and Christianity, “Allah” was originally no more a proper name for the Muslim God, than the word Hebrew “elohim” (god) or Greek “theos” (god) are proper names of the one true God of the Bible. “Jehovah” is the only revealed proper name for the “Elohim” of the Old Testament ( Ex 3:13; 6:3) and “Jesus” is the only revealed proper name of “Theos” in the New Testament. (Acts 4:12) Islam has no proper name for their god, but merely transformed, by universal use and confusion, the generic Allah into a proper name. So although today, Muslims use “Allah” as a proper name, it was never used this way originally. Allah, therefore is equivalent to “elohim” and “ho theos” but not “Jehovah” or “Jesus”. Allah is not the name of the nameless Muslim God. However Muslims will claim that Allah is the name of God that corresponds to Jehovah. Both the Father and the Son are called “ho theos” (The God). Jesus is called “The God” many times in the New Testament: John 20:28; Heb 1:8. An important conclusion from this, is that the mere fact that “Allah” is equivalent to “elohim” and “ho theos” does not mean they are directly corresponded. It certainly doesn’t prove Allah is the same as the God of the Old or New Testament. It does not prove that Muslim’s worship the same God as Christians. If this correspondence proved the Muslim god was the same as the Christian God, then because pagan religions also have generics that correspond to “the god” (Allah), this correspondence would also prove that Allah is the same god as the Buddhist god, for Buddhists also refer to their god as “the god”.

          Read more at….

          http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-allah-pre-islamic-origin.htm

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          • Ok, so you do not believe that there is sufficient evidence to believe the claim that you are going to burn in the Muslim hell for not believing in Allah. And I assume that you have investigated all the other exclusivist religions, cults, and sects on the planet to make sure that their evidence is not sufficient to believe their claims.

            So aren’t you really saying that your belief in Jesus as the risen Lord of the universe is based 100% of evidence? Why then do Christians even use the word “faith”?

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          • As I stated, my belief in Jesus is based upon faith, not evidence.

            Anyone who does not accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour has made their choice to spend the rest of eternity in Hell.

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          • But what do you say to the nativist in a remote area of the rain forest who worships, by faith, a tree or a rock? Why are they wrong and you right if both of you use faith to come to your beliefs?

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          • So what you are saying is that the only way that you know that your God belief is true is because you hope (faith in things not seen) it is? I don’t see any difference between your hope and the hope of the nativist in the Amazon that HIS God belief is true.

            I see no reason why I or any other thinking person should take you or the nativist seriously. When the nativist “medicine man” shakes his tom toms at me and utters incantations of eternal doom by the power of the great Gum tree god, and you shake the Bible at me and utter incantations of eternal doom by the power of Lord Jesus, my reaction will be the same: disbelief that you both base your entire world view on such an unreliable method as “hope”.

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          • You will make your choice just like everyone else has to. If you make the wrong choice you will know when you get to the other side of eternity and there will not be a thing you can do to change it. Choose wisely.

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          • Yes, this is simply a rewording of Pascal’s Wager: It is a safer bet to believe in God and find out he doesn’t exist, than to not believe in God and find out he does…and spend an eternity writhing in torment in Hell for not believing in him. The problem with Pascal’s Wager, as I discussed above, is that there isn’t just one exclusivist religion. If you choose one god, you must reject all the other gods.

            My friend, you have no evidence other than your intense feelings and perceptions (faith) in the veracity of your particular God belief. We should take you no more seriously than we do the proponents of all the other exclusivist religions on earth, all of whom use FEAR to increase their following among the poorly educated, naive, and ignorant.

            I encourage you to abandon your baseless superstitions and embrace reason and science.

            Peace.

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